The Idaho Helmet Debate Continues (Statesman article July 29)

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Talk' started by Hozhead, Jul 30, 2006.

  1. Hozhead

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    Idaho is one of the few states in the region where adults are not required to wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle. Several attempts over the years to change the helmet law have failed. Washington, Oregon, California and Nevada now require helmets.


    Yes, Idaho should have a helmet law requiring motorcyclists to wear helmets. I'm sure it won't pass in Idaho, but we taxpayers have to add the costs of caring for critically injured motorcyclists who do not wear helmets and do not have insurance to our tax bill. Rather unfair, don't you think?

    Linda O'Connor, Boise


    I am a 53-year-old man with a lot of years behind me on a motorcycle. I, at one time, fought for overturning mandatory helmet use. I choose to wear a helmet, gloves, jacket and boots.

    I will always wear a helmet, but I really don't want anybody to tell me I have to. I have customers who have had accidents, and the helmets they were wearing did not help them one bit. It is really hard to convince someone that a helmet is going to protect a rider or passenger from a 2,000-pound car. Legislation can not ensure intelligence. Mandatory helmets may just give riders a false sense of security. Helmets are not going to protect your arms, hands, legs, back or neck from injuries. Proper protective gear will at least give some protection but will not prevent it. The bottom line is that a motorcycle rider needs to ride his or her motorcycle defensively, and they need to use their brains.

    Larry Allen, Boise


    Wearing a helmet should be a choice. I know wearing a helmet probably does save lives. I do wear one when we go on trips or on the freeway, but around town I don't, but I know I probably should. My husband doesn't like to wear them, either. Wearing a helmet is probably the best thing to do, but I don't like them. They are really uncomfortable for me and I can't see very well from side to side or if I look behind me. Wearing one should be a choice.

    Kelly Smart, Boise


    That is a tough question for me, and I'm truly undecided. I love the safety that helmets bring and I always wear one, but I know what it is like to ride without a helmet ? I have done it in the past ? and there is a sense of freedom. I'm pretty inclined for people to have a choice; it's almost like forcing someone to wear a seat belt. There are hard-core riders who don't want to wear a helmet. It's my choice to wear safety gear.

    Kris Link, Nampa


    I've been riding for 30 years, and I wear all the gear all the time. But I don't need government to tell me what to do. Why do we need another law? Besides, we need organ donors, so if you don't wear a helmet, there they are. If insurance companies cancel policies for riders in accidents without helmets, the problem would be solved without changing laws.

    Mike Howard, Boise
  2. Good post Hoz, thanks.

    Is it the choice, or the image that is in danger of being taken away? I'd be surprised if Idaho passed a helmet law. I for one, would like to see it passed. Motorcycles are everywhere now. The increase in RUB's (Rich Urban Bikers) who are embracing the Easy Riders lifestyle, and of course the :squid: crashing their brains out are not helping the public's perception of motorcycling in general. The general Joe Schmo out there doesn't know the difference of a CBR to CPR (they probably think one will lead to the other, though).
    The U.K. has a brilliant licensing process, with mandatory skills tests, limited HP, etc.
    This will never eliminate the casualties associated with operating a motorcycle, but with proper instruction and the execution of the associated skills learned, I think a motorcyclist's choice regarding lids would be Shoei or Arai.

    ... I'm off my soapbox now.

  3. Darwin's theory

    a helmet alone won't save you, so while we are at it lets make a law to wear full leathers as well...

    i mean come on... :deadhorse:
  4. As long as I don't have to pay for your medical bills if you scramble your brains I'm fine with it.

  5. Hozhead

    Hozhead <img src="/images/ranks/site_founder.gif" alt="BRN

    I'm very much in favor of a helmet law (DOT approved minimum with Snell being my personal preference) for a few reasons.

    1) Lower insurance rates for all riders.
    2) Lower head injury and fatality rate which keeps people alive and improves public perception of motorcycle riders (they have to read about fewer deaths).
    3) Improved public perception based on appearance (when the public likes us more, they complain to :police: about us less)

    I don't believe in idiot proofing the world because we still need individual freedoms but often times its a few idiots ruining good things for the rest of us.
  6. umm that is what insurance is for, which by the way is required (ie. the law). by the way i suit up everyday, helmet, jacket, boots and gloves. and if you are worried about paying for someones medical bills over the freedom to choose. then where is your passion for paying for someone to stay at home and be lazy...:beehive::bitch:

    I am not trying to be rude, but I hate people telling me how to live and i think that we as a society rely too much upon the government to live our lives. we are adults so start acting like it and take responsibility for our own actions. :soap: :rant:
  7. I don't think the insurance required by law pays for my medical costs. It's liability insurance, not medical insurance. Its purpose is to ensure that I can cover the cost of damages that I may cause to others when I ride my bike (e.g. run into somebody and injure them).

    In any case, I'm neutral with regards to the helmet law, even though I think it's crazy to ride without one.
  8. No worries. I think we are on the same page.

    Personally I don't give a damn what anyone does. Don't wear gear, wear gear, pass on double yellows, take yourself out ... whatever. I just ask that all the stupid people take responsibiluty for the stupid crap they do when it goes wrong and that goes for myself as well because I am guilty at times.

  9. Thank you that is all i am saying +1
  10. If people want to rip down the highway at 75mph+ without at least wearing a helmet let them. Their time will come..............................its called natural selection.
  11. I say let people do what they want. That way when they crash and can't ride anymore, I can buy another bike to fix up for my latest track bike! I've done 2 already and could use something newer. I don't even ride on the street anymore since I don't want to get taken out by a Volvo driving soccer Mom!
  12. thining the heard. its all fun and games until :hitfan:
  13. I am with Hoz on this, BUT, I also call it crowed control. Sorry to say if I see you riding down the road with your sunglasses and hat turned around backwards with a wife beater on and short and flip flops, I will wave at you to be nice but I will also be laughing my ass off at your stupidest, freedom of choice? You have no freedom of choice when soccer mom feels like running your ass over. You do not ware a helmet because you?re a dumb ass on a bike; you ware a helmet because of all the dumb asses in the cages around you...

    My 2 cents,
  14. What he said. :)